UNFAIRLY CHARGED FOR BANK'S MISTAKE?

Bank refutes the allegation and says such is not the case
Monday, February 8th, 2010 09:24:00
Hong Leong

CHAN of Kuala Lumpur, a property seller, alleges she was "bullied" and unfairly charged RM5,966.55 by  Hong Leong Bank  due to the bank’s mistake!

She says she went to the bank's Taman Danau Desa branch some time last year to check on the status of her property loan.

“I was attended to by the branch service manager. I wanted to check on the loan status before confirming and signing the release of the sales and purchase agreement to the buyer of my property,” she claims.

“The manager checked through his computer system and I was told by him that the 'lock-in period' was no longer valid, and therefore I could proceed with the sale of my property without incurring any penalty.

“A few months after I sold off my property, I was shocked when the bank informed me in a letter that I was required to pay a penalty of RM5,966.55, due to the termination of the contract within the lock-in period.

“ I approached the bank’s Mortgage Service Centre at its headquarters and an officer promised to investigate my case and would get back to me within a week."

After waiting for a week, CHAN contacted the Mortgage Service Centre again and she was told to contact the bank's Taman Danau Desa outlet because her case had been passed to them.

“To my utter disbelief, when I called the Taman Danau Desa branch, they told me they were still waiting for feedback from the Mortgage Service Branch. Clearly,  they are just passing the buck around," she says.

“I am very disappointed and saddened. The bank has not been helpful and I felt very much bullied. Not only I did not make any profit from the sale of my property, now it seems that I have to lose RM5,966.55 more.”

A REPRESENTATIVE of Hong Leong Bank Berhad regrets to inform CHAN that the bank is unable to approve her request for a waiver of the Early Termination Penalty.

“We have done a complete review of CHAN’s request, based on the applicable Early Termination Penalty and Holding Period clauses as stated in the customer's Letter of Offer and Main Terms and Conditions,” said the representative.

“We have issued a written letter to CHAN on Jan 25 to clarify the matter. However, the customer has not responded to the bank on this matter since then.”

Comments

Go to Pasar Road and get those spy pens which can record images and voices. Its a good investment in case you want to fight the banks - they might even make a settlement out of the court and you could win yourself a new bungalow!!!!

Submitted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 10th, 2010.
Well, how can the bank be allowed to make mistake after mistake. I have proof that my bank calculated my full loan repayment amount wrongly. I went to a couple of banks to recalculate including the bank's other branch. BNM was made aware of it, but they just take the easy way out...we cannot interfere into the agreement of a commercial bank...! Oh gosh, why can't there be a separate tool accessible to the Rakyat to verify the authenticity of any banking loan calculation? Ministry of Finance pun tak ada apparatusnya. Frustration when you just want the truth poven!

Submitted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 10th, 2010.
Hong Leong Bank...just speechless about you guys. You continue to send reminders like it is all free of charge, called everyday like you owned us and sms us every minutes like we are buddies, soley for payment. But each time when we go to your bank to pay, Cash Deposit machine are always OFF-Line! Is this how you gain more profit by down your cash machine, and let the late charges and finance charges flow on?? Just can't wait to settle my loan with you guys. Only if i have another choice then stuck with you further.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 10th, 2010.
A very painful lesson to learn for CHAN. If she can remember the officer who told her it was okay to sell her property without penalty, she should take up legal recourse with the individual since the bank denies all responsibility. That officer should be liable for the misinformation. The lesson to learn is that when dealing with banks, we need to have everything in BLACK and WHITE. If not, they will turn around and deny all and sundry. From this episode and from the other comments written in, I now know which banks I must close my accounts with.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 10th, 2010.
Never trust banking staff verbally. They have many things to do and want you to get off their backs-stress or apathy- by saying things that often they are not clear of. Many do not update themselves nor are properly briefed. They give u any convenient reply so that they can pass the buck. Their mistake is your problem not theirs. Oftentimes, their word later is law to their advantage. Banks suck your blood so that they can announce huge profits annually-millions or billions. Where do all these come from?; through unfair charges and penalties-they enforce banking rules and restrictions , act both as prosecutor and judge. They make tons of money acting as agents of insurance, bill collectors, remisiers and cellphone provider agents-not a single cent is passed back to customers as discounts. They swallow everything. Customers always lose as they use your money to make themselves dirt rich. They give back pittance if they ever do. Meantime, they continue to act as commercial leaches - not for health purposes of course. Bank Negara needs to use its fangs - be proactive! We are at mercy when banks act like big bullies and many still do. Don't just tell us to report, report, report. You should know what is going on by monitoring. Do something to shake them up! Bring justice!

Submitted by No Choice on Wednesday, February 10th, 2010.
SORRY SIS, there are the ONLY 2 rules when dealing with banks, they are: RULE #1- The Bank is always RIGHT! RULE #2- When in doubt, please refer to RULE #1! Try asking customers of MBF and AMBANK, you'll be surprise to learn they are more people getting screwed for the BANK's own mistakes. BNM WAKE UP!!!

Submitted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 9th, 2010.

When dealing with banks, there are some formalities that you will need to address without fail.

1. GENERAL VERIFICATION - I you have a question related to your loan accounts and seeking some basic verbal clarification, then upon receipt of the answer, you will have a basic idea what you need to do

2. WRITTEN CLARIFICATION - Upon understanding the basic idea, if you need to pursue a conclusion that you have made, YOU WILL NEED TO PUT IT IN WRITING TO THE BANK, and ask them for formal clarification before undertaking your next step. You must understand that you signed multiple documents in black-and-white and when you seem to make an assumption based on verbal converation, you fail to address this. Thus, get in writing from the appropriate department/bank and its branch before you execute anything that will render being in conflict to the initial agreement. With written clarification, it can easily be brought forward to legal arbitration if the bank fails to acknowledge its writing.

3. Yes, banks are 'official loan sharks' technically. That is what they are there for i.e. to make money out of the consumer. When a client puts in money in savings, they expect higher returns because they feel that the bank is a safe place to put in their savings. A smarter client will probably be spreading the savings between fixed deposit, long-term mutual funds and perhaps even return revenue from insurance-based schemes where they had taken indept understanding of the returns instead of listening to the marketeers. If you fail to pay your monthly installments, then blaming the bank is not the appropriate move. You can write to the bank, formally approach the branch that you took the loan from and inform your predictment. If they officer finds you a good debtor, they will provide you with the apppriate support. If you are a bad debtor, their task is to ensure recovery of the loan is done whilst their is some value left to the asset. If you are having a car loan, then you car depreciates badly, the bank incurs losses towards the loan. If you are having a housing loan, there is still some point where the loan recovery can be made at better stake.

4. PROFITEERING : An unprofitable bank is simply a bank that is not worth being in business as they are at risk of loosing the depositors money, assets and more. For example, if a bank wraps up in Malaysia, the maximum insured amount that probably you may receive in return is RM 50,000 at any one bank. So, if you have more than that amount, it goes 'missing' for good and not refunded at all. Thus, the stakes are high, in reality, between the banker and its clients.

5. LEVEL OF SERVICE : Yes, I truly agree that Malaysian banks have the least service commitment to their clients. If you have an account with RM 250,000 and above as savings, only then the bank officers will be much interested to talk to you. A Priority Service section is rightly available and they will be eyes and ears to you and your requests. Anything lesser, you are just another customer who is putting money in the bank to secure your own interest, payment method and demands that are just alike to another. I will safely say that nearly all banks in Malaysia promotes great customer service commitments but in reality they do not practice what they preach. You will find ignorant bank officers and tellers who do not know banking procedures and tell you the lamest excuse to cover-up their ignorance.

6. IMPROVISING BANKING SYSTEM : That will be a great blessing to our nation and its citizens too. I have sometimes been in touch with Bank Negara Malaysia. Sometimes the officers gets the matters sorted out immediately, sometimes it goes under the carpet that you will be looking for a needle in the haystack. Another day in this wonderous Malaysia where priorities are missed out, lames excuses are the height of statements.


Submitted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 9th, 2010.
Thanks for the good comments...Its make sense.

Submitted by bats on Tuesday, February 9th, 2010.
The bankers are robbers........ never trust a bank.....

Submitted by Road Warrior on Tuesday, February 9th, 2010.
I'm not surprised that the Bank gave such a statement. There's no winning with banks that can get away with anything in the Malaysian Banking system! The banks will always win & the consumer will lose. When will Malaysian banks starts jumping on the "People First! Performance Now" bandwagon??? BNM, wake up, do your job!

Submitted by Dzurina Razuan on Tuesday, February 9th, 2010.
This how the malaysia bank system work, you will always lose if you deal with the bank because the big brother BNM will always protect them.

Submitted by Salahuddin al Ayubi on Tuesday, February 9th, 2010.
All banks are licensed LOAN SHARKS!!! They NEVER admit their mistake and charged you for the the mistakes they made.

Submitted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 9th, 2010.
the branch service manager which told him that he can proceed with the sale of his property without incurring any penalty since the 'lock-in period' was no longer valid is STUPID.How come he told the customer like that if he is not so sure with that thing.He make the customer suffer and lose RM5,966.55 to the bank? Banyak baguslah you branch service manager...menyusahkan orang sahaja!! The branch manager is responsible to the mistake and should resign !! BNM where are you...what are you doing? do you really happy the bank mistake make the customer suffer? please lah BNM...do something !!

Submitted by khunshikang on Monday, February 8th, 2010.
i thought the tiger is bad but this one . . . .

Submitted by anti-maybank on Monday, February 8th, 2010.
The current trend for banks is that you get it when you default your payments, you get it when you don't service your loan, and now ta-da..., you get IT even when you settle your loan early. What is Bank Negara doing to safe guard the man-in-the-street's interest??

Submitted by annoyed on Monday, February 8th, 2010.
Hong Leong bank has very bad customer service department. Their collection department also seems not to understand simple English. They will call you a hundred times even though you have told them that you will settle your monthly loan payment by the weekend. What more, their cash deposit machines always break down.

Submitted by Anonymous on Monday, February 8th, 2010.
You can be sure, this incident is not isolated. Bank only have one things in mind, you either be with them or against them. Therefore, when you have early termination of loan repayment(usually the lock-in period is 5 years), you can be rest assured you will be penalized. That is why, verbal communication with bank, i do not entertained. I always push for written communication, whenever i deal with bank. Have fun!

Submitted by Anonymous on Monday, February 8th, 2010.
Not surprised with Hong Leong Banks reaction. My sister paid off her mortgage and her lawyer sent the Deeds of Receipt and Reassignment to Hong Leong Bank Taman Megah branch. The bank lost the document. Whenever the lawyer or she ring the bank, they kept giving all sorts of excuses, and didnt want to admit they have lost the original document. When my sister reached the end of the tether and threatened the bank that she will report the matter with Bank Negara and call the Malay Mail, then, did they admitted they had lost her original DRR. How dishonest can the bank get. Cant even be honest with the customer. Finally, they reported to the police for the loss and a new one has to be issued. I just wonder, how many such cases happened unreported, and if the clients arent assertive enough to stand for their rights and threatened to report to Bank Negara.

Submitted by Anonymous on Monday, February 8th, 2010.
well you know what, the bank is always protecting their best interest and not the customers. they are at all times counting the profits no matter how bad their services are. well there should be a time when all this greed needs to be stopped, can the consumer's court do anything regarding this????

Submitted by mamat on Monday, February 8th, 2010.
we need to becareful when dealing with banks. I guess you had forgot to get a letter on that day itself from the bank manager saying there the lock in period is already over. if you have had the letter, i guess, the bank will be at the loosing end. dealing with banks or with any organization, get a black and white to avoid future misunderstanding

Submitted by Anonymous on Monday, February 8th, 2010.
Hello...Get your answers in WRITING. Ask the Manager to sign off with what he said earlier otherwise it's a case of "he said what" and "you heard what"

Submitted by Anonymous on Monday, February 8th, 2010.
how bout the bank manager that give misleading info. The bank should have the responsible on that. Can it be consider fraud case as the bank is telling a lie when they told Chan it is not within lock in period., Although it is verbally not black & white? Very bad service

Submitted by Anonymous on Monday, February 8th, 2010.

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